Maybe I went too far in putting you in that fan-boy group. In the right hands though, the Sony a9 Mark II is a remarkably capable camera. The vast majority of the comments (negative) in all Canon threads are on the topic of overheating in 4k/8k. Find out how the Olympus M.Zuiko 12-100mm F4 Pro does as a travel companion on a trip to Oz. I own the A9II and have never shot sports—ever. Its worth checking out the likes under the clowns comments, says a lot! Checkmate.//. Interesting to hear of the R5 failures that I have yet to experience after using it since it’s release. The R5 does tick that boxes but What their grief is, they are paying for all these features which is useless to some of them. The inability to keep photo and video settings separate is one of them. @PAntunes & @ MikeRan.. you 2 pretty much just proved my point. What percentage of people here talking about this cam ( or the Canon ) actually shoot sports? Nowadays people shoot willy nilly and review their photos on the battery draining LCD so they get "only" 300 +/- shots per charge and complain about it. And putting on non-Canon options seems a bit poor too. Have you asked yourself what is the true intention of your posts? Then pick the camera brand or camera model from these prints. And now it’s $6,499. Read why we give the a9 II a gold award here. We didn't find many wizards or scarecrows, but we did see plenty of lizards and landscape scenes along the Australian coast. The colors look just so "ugh" to me in most shots, yuck. It would be interesting to be able to run a statistic. BlindasaBat sounds just like a Nikon Rumors Peter wannabe.."Sony sucks". It's a mix between A9ii and A7Riii. Improvements are largely ergonomic, so there's little reason for a9 owners to upgrade. About Canon fanboys I have encountered them and I don’t agree with them. The whole battery thing..as mentioned before, I agree it is an issue..and yes more than likely 2 or 3 people commented about it in the R5 thread...BUT 500 more comments were made about overheating in 8k. I 100% agree. TRU also has an occasional moment of reasonable thought. The company the others would love to beat. But that's what to expect from modern cameras... there is just so much flexibility. @Blindasabat. Continuing to pass... Well, I don't think many people pixel peep when looking at captures with eye catching fast action and then worry about 0.3 stop more noise that it maybe could have been if the photographer used a different camera. Somebody so obsessed surely has and alias or two they might use. I badly want the DPR comment section to be a place where I can chat with other enthusiasts about the latest camera gear, but it just isn't. I set metering mode on Highlight and all's well in DR world now. Combining a 37MP full-frame sensor, minimalist controls and Lightroom Mobile built in, it's a refreshing – if a bit quirky – take on the smartphone-meets-camera concept. The comment section will be so much better to read, @Willow W you wrote “Let's stay on topic (the review) instead of attacking other posters please.” “ You admit you go around deliberately targeting people with personal attacks? I can't really be bothered to continue this "conversation". When she claimed to be excited by the 600 and 800 f11 lenses I nearly died laughing - they posted a video of them driving an £80K BMW 840i a few weeks ago. This is not the camera for advertising. It is normal. Why do you have more than a hundred comments under those articles? But at the moment guaranteed prominence is given to every comment due to the basic functionality of this feature, and this is encouraging and rewarding poor etiquette. One of the most significant of updates is a new mechanical shutter mechanism that allows for 10 fps bursts: this is significant because if you find yourself in a situation where you can't use the electronic shutter for risk of banding or other artifacts, the older model could only muster 5 fps which is a bit uninspiring on a camera meant to specialize in sports and action. The Sony camera beats the competition on one thing. Joel - A camera (any camera) is about more than just one single aspect of its capabilities. Sony make specialised cameras whilst Canon is going for a good overall camera. The only mid-price option is the 100-400 f4.5-5.6 and that's not long enough. No offense to the camera. .......and as such is, as I said, Is perfect for those photographers who lack the skill and confidence to obtain sharp photos using less featured cameras or are new to photography or have no interest in learning how to take photographs preferring to let the camera decide for them. She can do it, they have lots of money to switch back and forth.She can't be a reference point for people to decide on buying a camera... surely.i have least experience with Sony system and menu, just started playing with A9II on loan. Then when I point out that canon users do the same, You think it makes no sense to refer it.... if the Sony users are that unique, canon users wouldn’t be doing the same... cbphoto. The equally old Sony A99ii mechanical shutter was capable of 12fps. Say down from 95% tack sharp to 90% tack sharp with fast subjects. Sony has deliberately designed the FE system to match 20fps, so many lenses are certified for 20fps. Check out how the a9 II performs right here. The likes are a way for me to judge. Just buy a superzoom 1" camera. And to be honest you challenged me on the R5 suggesting the only fault canon fans were denying were related to video. Now many of those same audio companies get most of their revenue from selling accessories to smartphones, like bluetooth speakers. Go find sport photographers shooting with the A9 before it was released. Anyway. I didn't mean to say that he is a lousy photographer but that several shots are technically, "lousy exactly in that regard" of noise. R5 also deserves the criticism it's getting. Putting a non weather sealed lens on a $3.5k camera would be unwise. And with bad sales on a7s3 and a9mk2 its not looking good for sony. Sounds like it is the perfect camera for the ‘spray and prey’ generation and for those who lack the skill and confidence to ‘nail the shot’ without artificial aids...... Stabilisers on a childs bicycle........he said in condescending English accent......... . The other issue is that a large number of people here consider that any criticism of their own brand is a personal insult. A great camera. I don't think censorship would be a good idea, and people should be able to post whatever they like (within reason). @ kurtjofsen: From the comments on color, I suspect that all Canon photographers use default camera settings and shoot jpg files at full auto all the time, also white balance. Senior Editor Barney Britton's Gear of the Year part two details how he ended up with a Reflex-Nikkor 1000mm F11, and despite its quirks, why it was ideal for a creative project in the COVID-era. I thought I was the name caller. These people rent or own very expensive lenses on purpose also. The Sony Alpha a9 II is the company's sports-oriented full-frame mirrorless camera. By the way, “The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy with other equipment.” Describes You and Willow to the letter. @tbcass as far as DSLR's "were superior" to Sony, I am talking about: battery life, ergonomics, weather sealing, pro services, lens line-up, menu/ui, single card slot, build quality... with the release of the A7rII and for the most part also later the A7rIII & A7III Sony was still far behind Canikon DSLR's (interestingly Sony "scored" much higher here at DPR compared to the top dslr's at the time)... 3.5 years ago, not 2 years ago. Menu access and improved image review while the camera is writing from the buffer. Now that Canon has moved away from its conservatism these two Sony models seem to have been crippled intentionally. These firmware updates, which were first announced back in February 2019, allow Nikon D500, D850 and D5 owners to use CFexpress Type B cards in addition to XQD cards in their Nikon DSLR camera systems. All you come up with is oh yeah we must be getting paid by Sony or the talking points given by Sony. @bionet: If you really think the two sample shots of the "Wrangler" woman look poor in color, you better get a new calibrated monitor. Won't happen.DPR needs the clicks so they can sell ads. I take pictures of my travels, my life and the people who are important to me. Journalists get gifts, trips and other things. I am sure if you read around you will find I am not the only one with some of these opinions.The final part of my post is from my own observation and experience so stands I am afraid. Also take in account that 12 Mp starts to reveal flaws even with high quality glass. Photokina has announced via a press release that after 70 years of shows in Cologne, Germany, it will be indefinitely suspended due to 'decreases in the imaging market’ that have ‘force[d] a hard cut.’. NEW FroPack 1 Lightroom Presets https://froknowsphoto.com/presets/ (40% off) This is a PREVIEW of the Sony a9 II. Not good for consumers. //And on this bombshell Chelsea northrup just switched to Canon from sony. The Alpha A9 II offers a number of evolutionary upgrades to the original A9 camera that was released back in 2017 - Sony … Why not just say that? Look around. Got the thumbs down from me (now at 1.2k by the way). So why do they take it so personally? What is really funny here, is that your gear list says you are not even a Sony user! @PAntunes I was a fashion/advertising photographer for over 20 years... missed focus rarely, even with my manual Pentax 67's...go figure. Certain individuals ruin the comments section for me every time a new camera is reviewed. And why didn’t Sony prioritize a faster mechanical shutter on a sports body? Do you expect likes for that? Checkout zackiedawg, he has some posts on camera settings for BIF that may help you to finally make use of the potential of your gear. My guess... none? You would not be able to do this even when using jpg and factory defaults! criticizing flaws of a camera is welcome, but posting the same false claims over and over again isn’t exactly criticism. I haven't used M Shutter a lot apart from Flash testing. You can literally hide in your tent if it's raining , "Putting 100-500 on R5 it can go up to 750 or 800 mm since in R5 in apsc crop is 20mpix, pretty much same as a9ii, no need to lose light with teleconverter". The Leica Q2 Monochrom is a version of the Gold Award-winning Q2 that only shoots images in black and white. Some, like me, are using more than one brand. I loved their 80s and 90s VCRs and the TVs, I still have my 90s Sony DAT deck (using it as a D/A converter) and CD player.I'm actually a fan of such "nerdy" devices and I used to dismiss manufacturers that came up with (in my opinion) excuses for their inferior technical quality.But today, we no longer have to worry about our VCR showing 220 or 240 lines of resolution. EthanP99 said "Recorded a video last night", MikeRan replies "We are talking about shooting still sports images. MikeRan, may I ask why you posted so many negative comments under the R5 review.Is that not the very issue you are complaining about here. If people are arguing that battery life does not matter..they are wrong, much like Sony fans were back then..actually until much more recently, 2 years ago...when they updated their batteries to finally actually be competitive with dslr's. Not so good for: Landscape and studio purists that may need more resolution or dynamic range, high-end video shooters that need more flexible files in post-production. It's the most remarkable camera (AF, high ISO cleanness of files, DR, etc.) This is a specialized camera. It's a cesspool. @SillenAnother poster who pretends DSLR's don't exist.They still outsell mirrorless cameras and is a market dominated by Nikon and Canon.That said the A9ii is an excellent camera with class leading specifications in some areas and the whole 'Sony colours are rubbish' is overblown in the same way that Canons lack of DR was. The a9 II's dynamic range is up there with the best in its class, but if DR is your main concern, it might not be your best choice. i don't see anything difficult to learn especially the menu system. So much for your "color theory"! I don't want to silence all criticism, but an option to "ignore" certain posters (like we can in the fora) would certainly be most welcome. The lens, with a 35mm-equivalent of 25.5-105mm, will be available in mid-January for $799. Is there a reason? And I think they know it. Could not agree more. It is similar to the way to GPS has had the effect of de-skilling people from being able to read maps to navigate themselves around efficiently or like many a car mechanic today that can only connect computer to your car to tell you what’s wrong with it and which plug-in replacement part he/she needs to order instead of actually being able to repair it themselves using their own knowledge.......... Will this camera make you a better photographer.....no, photography Is more than pressing buttons ! Let's look at that post from R Cicala and ask why he wrote that 2 years ago? It's rather obvious. Sigma's new primes promise very good performance and light weight, when paired with L-mount and Sony E-mount mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras. Similarly, just because someone has less education or behaves in a different way to you, doesn’t mean they are a bad person. But you do bring up the greater context: most people these days feel that the smartphone is more than adequate for their photography needs. It is rare to find apologists much like those found in the Sony camp. Just to name a few. @mikeran. If you didn't have any ideas who the trolls are, this really will highlight them. Moderators do a good job too. Despite the fact that you said they have had no advantages. Right?Ask Ethan if he thinks I was attacking him. The phrase ‘spray and pray’ isn’t just about fps, it is more about the process, ie, the pressing of one button to initiate the camera to focus accurately, measure the exposure accurately, etc, then take an exposure, then repeatIng the process of focussing and deciding the exposure before taking another exposure automatically without any involvement or input from the operator apart from the operator pressing a button and pointing the camera in the general direction the operator is pointing the camera. And you didn’t specify who you were talking about. With their 4th generation, they are certainly getting close though. Could you please tell us where cameras with identical or better specs from Nikon or Canon received a worse score than Sony? It may seem steep, but the Sony a9 II is what Sony … Sort of winning but really becoming the most useable, reliable and expandable ,canon and nikon sort of caught up with sony ,but there efforts are rushed and incomplete as a system goes. They wont be putting less costly lenses on it. I do consider there are a few differences. Canon did an amazing job with the R5 when you compare it with the previous versions they had. Have to say I didnt get that far in as came over nauseous after 2 minutes! You may observe chroma noise in … The redesigned magnesium alloy body, reminiscent of the a7R IV, is weather-sealed, has onboard 5-axis image stabilization, and offers two dials plus a joystick for selecting an AF point. When I want a reliable autofocusing camera I reach for that camera first. Slowly canon users are starting to understand what was clear to everyone else years ago. There have been some good suggestions, up and down votes, muting, limits on # of posts per article... lets lobby DPR to fix it, because from where I'm sat, no one is happy and what used to be one of the better bits of this website is becoming worthless. Not bulky. Funny valentine previously wrote, “Yes, the Canon R5 is the superior camera in every way. 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I actually think most people buying this are professional journalists or sports shooters, and not just tech enthusiasts. So one person switches from Sony to Canon makes Sony doomed. Introduction Lenses & Adapters Specifications Accessories USA Version Performance Compared Usage Recommendations Sony A9 II (24.0 oz./678g with battery and one card, $4,498) and 24-70mm f/2.8 GM. You can do that yourself on Tony Northrups blog and learn more about brandism versus actual perception. I bet all these are the same one person, happy dad. Fact, both of you...are Sony shooters. Enjoying life. This excellent video review takes a look at the camera and what you can expect … The Sony Alpha 9 Mark II comes with the best autofocus system we've seen. The Sony a9 II sensor is strongest in our Sports (low-li… Edwin, I'm testing the A9 and I can concur. Also reach for it when shooting portraits for the same reasons as above. The playstation generations will love it and toss their toys outa their prams at any sign of criticisim.Interestingly out and about I see no difference between photographers using different brands of cameras APART from Sony users who appear to be oikes? Sure you have some in the Canikon camp... but as far as camera brands go... this is one aspect where Sony is #1... by a very large margin! The a9 II produces lovely images across a variety of situations, with great noise performance and a fantastic JPEG engine. The Sigma 65mm F2 DG DN is for the photographer who wants a focal length that falls squarely between 50mm and 85mm. WHo wants two adaptors? I have an A7III and A9 mk.I and unless you need the AF and speed of the A9, the A7III has slightly better image quality. ;). Over here and in the comment sections of many articles it falls under the latter one. The Sony a9 II didn't make a huge splash in the industry when it launched, but it's certainly left an impression on us. Again, you’re basically picking at parts of my comment........a typical defence behaviour of someone who doesn’t want to understand the point of my original comment.......... For instance you could interpret my original comment that this is a very clever camera with amazing autofocus and FPS rate combined with a very accurate exposure system and efficient ISO 24mp sensor. But they they were also the only game in town for a few years. There are a lot of improvements in the A9II but not enough to buy it: the A9 is already almost perfect thanks to the new update! Moreover some have been recorded photos of hummingbirds with straight wings. This is an upgrade over the a9—it only offers UHS-II speeds in one of its two card slots. I do use Canon's DPP in a VM, but just for simple batch conversion from RAW to JFIF and the occasional lifting of shadows or highlight recovery. Same goes with Olympics, World Cup, Moto GP etc the real big event, majority of pros are shooting with these 2 brands still. Put yourself in my shoes. You completely forgot that resolution goes in two directions, with and height. You and other(s) here are Sony brand haters. How many are actually interested in this camera because they like Technology primarily - taking pictures is secondary. That’s ok. Noone is forcing you to buy it. Usually there are plenty of Canon fanboys that beat me to it though. Roughly 50% of the comments (all negative) are about only one topic. I would say another issue is you tried to have a rational conversation under a completely irrational comment by the original commenter. Can i use a pentax K1000 with Fantôme Kino B&W 35 mm ISO 8? Sony won't release anything for long time and she is big influencer. It does not..but your misleading statement about what I supposedly said certainly does. ". Amazing that A9/A9ii still has the fastest silent shutter and fastest AF system. There is a picture on my study wall about 3 feet across, of a country landscape at dawn with shafts of light illuminating my dog as he scouts among the tall grass for some creature to point at. We've combed through the options and selected our two favorite cameras in this class. You hit the nail on the head. And I think they need to improve the writing speed to SD cards via new card technology for starters. Nikon and Canon have their experence from mechanical mirror-slamming cameras, and this doesn't help much when the most important part of the camera is the sensor and electronics to control all camera fuctions. . The a9III will probably have that and the Sony marketing machine will spin it like it's new and great. The a9 sports two SD card slots (both support UHS-II media) plus Gigabit Ethernet and USB 3.2 ports allowing users to transfer files over FTP (even in the background). EM1X 2.0...really good...reeeaaally good... Manny Ortiz: Z6II / R5 / A7III Autofocus comparison, 2020 Pixel Awards: X-T4 the biggest disappointment, Can Anyone List Firmware Updates For Lenses. No Jello. It's for a targeting audience that need/want its capabilities. A7SIII is outselling the R5 and even the 3 year old A7III is outselling the R6.... That may change in time but I was surprised to see that.I own the A9 and I realize its a niche camera. Buy camera for 4500 USD and put in a glass box and watch for next 2 years.? Oct 24, 2019 The a9 II is the camera Sony … Take a look. Seems that it is. The Sony A9 II full-frame mirrorless camera is a brand new version of Sony's flagship model for sports photography and photojournalism. And not very adult. This approach based on perception is something that I think is not in Sony's DNA. 45MP beats the small about of diffraction and means an R5 with a $900 lens will always give you better images. Doesn't happen often but like I say occasionally. Nothing of practical significance, but I am still a little surprised. I am 53 and, I suspect, not much of a ‘social media person’ whatever you think that means. That`s why -put the new toy in a glass box and watch for next 2 years.? @ BlindasaBat: Modern cameras are electronic consumer products, so those who make playstations will also make the best cameras. DP Review reporting today that market share of Canon FF mirrorless is has caught Sony, in Japan. That’s another solution. I wouldn't be surprised if you don't hear much more about her 'switch' after they see how unpopular it is with subscribers... :). 6? I have no problem stating that the best lovely picture of one of my daughters is from a 8 Mpx Canon 350D with Sigma 1850 lens. They have different styles. The 35mm F2 DG DN is the standard prime in the group of new Sigma I-series lenses. I find the forums far better for getting constructive comments. Higher resolution is not benefit. We need cap on number of comments. Purist Pentax sold more cameras than Canon and nikon combined at one point of time. (You should have checked BEFORE you posted. Me, I bought the first version A9 a couple of months ago, since I don't need the extra goodies of the update, and took advantage of the now reduced price of the earlier version. It the size and extra weight that kills it for most. Sorry but that's how it comes across. But even my gone 5N with kit lens as well as my old A6000 were also able to produce great JPG portraits. I may have the exact same opinion as you. canon has that market segment locked up already, to their detriment. When mirrorless hits tipping point those DSLR users are going to be shared out across all the players. I'm sure your extensive experience with the A9II and it's competition will be very informative. (more at High ISOs) Top Sample Images Intro Lenses & Adapters Specifications Accessories USA Version Performance Compared Usage Recommendations More All shot as Standard JPGs; no RAW or FINE JPGs were used or needed. As for power, the a9 II … pros use a9 for event shooting like weddings because the af is more accurate than anything else, and the a9/a9ii does it with sony real-time tracking, which is unequalled in the industry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn0fh4XHpLY.
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